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Subject : Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gamers
Posted : 2007-02-20 10:13 PM
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Lucasarts is not planning on releasing Force Unleashed on the PC.As pointed out on the Force.net http://theforce.net/videogames/story/Force_Unleased_For_PC_103753.asp

Theres a petition going around to get Lucasarts to release it for the PC,you may sign this petition here!
http://www.petitiononline.com/g5d4iu5f/petition.html
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-21 3:47 AM
Post #12675 - In reply to #12670

I don't mean to stir anything here, but I looked all over Lucas Arts.com and found no "official word" of it not being on the PC. http://www.lucasarts.com/games/platform.html

This is the only thing I can assume that people are basing it off of, but if you look, they dont even have it listed for the XBOX 360 nor the PS3. I may be blind and I may just be missing the "official word " somewhere on the LA site, but I am seeing the exact same thing over at the Unreal Tournament 3 site.

Heck, over there they even have a sticky thread stating that "if it hasnt come from EPIC, it isnt true" and people are still trying to hype up differant things about it just by hear say or just wanting to start rumors.

If there is more info on this besides what Mags have posted/published or what threads that users made on the LA forums, please share. I am curious. Thanks
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-21 10:48 PM
Post #12686 - In reply to #12670

Actually Miner they have listed for support,Next Generation COnsoles which is made of Xbox360,PS3 and Wii and then also the older consoles and portables.They simply do not list PC becuse its not going to support it,they would never come out with a big press release or announcement stating its not coming for the PC,instead they simply list what platforms it will be supported on and we all know the rest.
Remember were talking about Lucasarts here who have had way of not caring what PC gamers really think even though were the ones who bought all thier old games and made them what they are today.
This trend started with the release of the Episode 3 game to console only.We also just recently sawy Lethal Alliance released only for portables as well.My guess is theres big money changing hands to get them to commit to a console only format but in the hand the PC gamers will suffer.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-22 8:12 PM
Post #12702 - In reply to #12686

Vis is right, If they were making it for PC it would say PC. Since it doesn't we can assume they do not intend it for PC. And LA hasn't done a great deal to show its appreciation for PC player in games like SWB2, but then they did make E@W and FoC which are only for PC. But their support for PC in other games is disappointing. For example, the Xbox version of SWB2 eventually got some of the best SWB1 maps officially released as well as some new heroes. PC gets a sub par patch and is left behind. I have to disagree however with saying that Lethal Alliance for the portables only was a bad move. it was clearly made to be a portable game and that only, and if it was made for other consoles it would just get bad ratings because you cant judge a portable game by next gen console standards. but back to the topic at hand. people should go a head and sign the petition. For all those thinking it wont even help because LA will probably not even pay attention to it or take it in to consideration (and I admit I find myself thinking of that myself), think about this: even if signing it might not help, it definitely wont hurt and takes maybe 15 seconds to sign, so why not do it anyway? Isn't it worth it to take 15 seconds to get a great game to be made for PC, even if the chances are small? Just do it help a good cause.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-22 8:39 PM
Post #12706 - In reply to #12670

A lot of good points Krayt.I am honestly starting to believe that its more on the devlopers end and not so much maybe the Lucasarts when it comes to how the games get supported after thier release.But as far as when a new game is coming out,Lucasarts clearly dictates the platforms and by thumbing thier nose to the PC gamers with Force Unleashed,its obvious theyve forgotten the gamers that supported them all these years before consoles even were popular.
For many of us anxiously awaiting a new saber game since the release of Jedi Academy over 3 years ago,Force Unleashed looks amazing and it would be a shame not have a PC version for us to play.
Sign the petition,you just never know what can happen
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-22 11:20 PM
Post #12711 - In reply to #12670

Petitions arent really going to do anything.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-23 7:25 PM
Post #12738 - In reply to #12711

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-02-22 4:20 PM

Petitions arent really going to do anything.


a statement which i believe has been stated and replied to. If you look back up 2 or 3 replies you will see our replies to this.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-25 3:08 AM
Post #12800 - In reply to #12711

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-02-22 11:20 PM

Petitions arent really going to do anything.


Indeed, so what do you have to lose by signing it?
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-25 8:36 AM
Post #12808 - In reply to #12670

I would love it to come out on the PC. It is true, LA hasnt paid as much attention to the PC games as it should have. I will defintely get it for 360 though.

As long as money flows through LA, they r happy and will dow hat they want.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-27 7:15 AM
Post #12876 - In reply to #12800

Originally written by Mazda on 2007-02-25 1:08 AM

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-02-22 11:20 PM

Petitions arent really going to do anything.


Indeed, so what do you have to lose by signing it?


Krayt ya caught me i didnt read all the posts *puts hands out infront of himself* Arrest me.What do i have to gain by signing it ? Nothing so i dont think i should waste my time doing all the crud involved in it.


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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-02-27 4:10 PM
Post #12886 - In reply to #12670

Nothing, but it's the absolute least you could do. Then again, with your mentality, who cares about anything?
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-01 12:41 AM
Post #12955 - In reply to #12876

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-02-27 12:15 AM

Krayt ya caught me i didnt read all the posts *puts hands out infront of himself* Arrest me.What do i have to gain by signing it ? Nothing so i dont think i should waste my time doing all the crud involved in it.



No offense wes but ya have to be pretty damn lazy to complain that it takes you a whole 10 seconds to write your name and click a button.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-01 11:22 AM
Post #12973 - In reply to #12876

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-02-27 7:15 AM

Originally written by Mazda on 2007-02-25 1:08 AM

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-02-22 11:20 PM

Petitions arent really going to do anything.


Indeed, so what do you have to lose by signing it?


Krayt ya caught me i didnt read all the posts *puts hands out infront of himself* Arrest me.What do i have to gain by signing it ? Nothing so i dont think i should waste my time doing all the crud involved in it.



LOL Wes.....doing all the crud? All you do is put a name and an email address and click a button,unless your a very slow typer I wouldnt consider 10 seconds a waste of time for ushc a good cause
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-01 2:33 PM
Post #12983 - In reply to #12670

Your right i would take me a short amount of time but your fogetting one thing i'd rather not support a cause that wont matter to me.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-01 6:51 PM
Post #12998 - In reply to #12983

i'd rather not support a cause that wont matter to me.


Sounds selfish.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-01 6:55 PM
Post #12999 - In reply to #12983

Originally written by Wes/Phantom on 2007-03-01 7:33 AM

Your right i would take me a short amount of time but your fogetting one thing i'd rather not support a cause that wont matter to me.


and the cause of telling us how you dont care does matter to you? you say you wont take 10 seconds to sign a petition yet you seem to have all the time in the world to come on this topic and post all about how you don't really care.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-01 11:34 PM
Post #13005 - In reply to #12670

Wes if you don't care then why are you trolling the thread?
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-02 12:14 AM
Post #13008 - In reply to #13005

Originally written by Big_Rich on 2007-03-01 4:34 PM

Wes if you don't care then why are you trolling the thread?


Exactly. He says he doesn't want to take 10 seconds to type his name and click a button, yet he has probably spent somewhere close to 5 minutes reading this topic and posting on it. I personally find that to be quite funny.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-02 7:16 PM
Post #13055 - In reply to #12670

Damn hypocrites.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-05 1:26 PM
Post #13162 - In reply to #12670

Well, at this stage the gaming community is devided into the old generation and the new. The old or 1st generation of gamers were the people born in the 80's and prior, with only the PC available. Consoles had for the most part not been invented, excluding 8 bit gaming ofcourse. Back then, TV-Games were being born. With the advent of the Sega Megadrive, things started changing. Everyone who was around to see these events will sign this petition because the only games we could play at that stage were computer games. Those who don't, I dont even see what your doing here... Go get a PS3 or X-Brick 360 and stop posting pesimistic views that get the hopes of others down. This petition is an attempt at trying to achieve something.

Kids who were born after the release of the Megadrive, grew up in a world of Playstations, Nintendos, Dreamcasts, Saturns, Xboxs. Now, these people will generally stick to consoles which is still a growing market, getting all their innovation from the computer market. If Lucas Arts turns it's back on it's origional fan/supportbase (Which are the computer geeks), then it won't stay profitable for long.

>I just felt like saying that for some odd reason.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-05 2:16 PM
Post #13164 - In reply to #12670

Asuka your pretty much correct.I read an article recently though about the future of Consoles and it said they expect the next Xbox version which will be in about 4 years is going to be turned into basically a cross between a console and PC with a keyboard and everything with inter play capability between actual PC and console users so then we should see a complete merging of both generations.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-06 9:25 PM
Post #13241 - In reply to #12670

To mention, never say petitions won't do anything. The Declaration of Independence was practically a petition for freedom from Britain. And I've been furious at them not releasing it for PC, so I've gone site to site. Not much news, Star Wars Republic Commando 2, a new Expansion for EaW, all was old until I found a little clip about SW Forces Unleashed being like Halo 2. They grow it up a bit, say two or three months, then it gets released on the PC. All we can say is, keep in touch. You never know when LucasArts might have a change of heart.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-06 9:29 PM
Post #13243 - In reply to #12670

To be honest, the only place I trust info is Star Wars Insider. As their name goes, they've got the inside scoop. They'll put something about it sooner or later. Maybe they already did, I just didn't read the article. But anyways, they've been updated on nearly every LucasArts game, so I'd trust them if you have no where else to look.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-06 9:34 PM
Post #13244 - In reply to #12670

And always remember the words that prove Lucas changes his mind, and I'll quote Lucas exactly as he said it nearly 30 years ago: "Star Wars will never go to home video".
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-07 9:24 PM
Post #13267 - In reply to #12670

I dont wanna piss in anyones corn flakes but LA is NOT gonna care if you have 3/4 of the world sign your pettion they did that with the new content thing for xbox live only for SWBF2 let them take all the time they want to work on SWBF3 or KOTOR3 then they will do what they normally do and hand out a patch or 2 that does nothing and forget about it. The dont see PC gamers as cash cows like consoule games granted I would love to see it on pc but LA's track record with PC games sux...anyone remember KOTOR 2? I wish you the best of luck with your petition.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-07 9:50 PM
Post #13269 - In reply to #12670

Um... Where on Earth did you come up with Battlefront III and KOTOR III? Although they seem possible, there's truly no purpose. Battlefront II was good enough, unless they add Yuuzhan Vong in III, I see no point. KOTOR III, though, you never know, do you?
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Posted : 2007-03-07 11:12 PM
Post #13272 - In reply to #12670

SWBF3 will be out in Fall 2008 thats where I got it from now if LA is smart they would have a ranking system like bf2 and 2142 to keep the game alive and KOTOR 3 will be out....your guess is as good as mine probally in time when they can use DX10 but thats wishfull thinking
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-08 1:16 PM
Post #13287 - In reply to #12670

And perhaps..after a 2 dissapointments, include multiplayer in the 3rd...
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-08 7:54 PM
Post #13299 - In reply to #12670

KOTOR2 was fun,but after beating it twice, I was interested in MP but there wasnt any, so it died out. Im looking foawrd to any MP any KOTOR3.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-09 9:56 AM
Post #13311 - In reply to #12670

Well, this may be depressing. Again, BFIII will not take all the maps from BFII, instead making its own maps. I hated BFII when they took Rhen Var out, now they're taking more out. Depressing, and btw, I don't own an Xbox, so I couldn't have just gotten the map pack.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-09 8:45 PM
Post #13319 - In reply to #12670

Wow, I think the petition is working. Talk about Forces Unleashed on PC have spread throughout LA, and I'm pretty sure they're considering. Let's pray, unless your religion doesn't allow you to pray.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-10 5:48 PM
Post #13342 - In reply to #12670

A LA spokes person has actually said that in the future of LA's games, Battlefront and Knights of the Old Republic will not be left behind. Not sure why you guys are complaining about no MP in the KOTOR games, these were simply not meant to be online games and frankly multiplayer on them wouldn't work.

Back on topic though, We shouldn't give up hope on a PC version of the Force Unleashed. LA didn't state that they are making it for the Wii but in a recent article they also stated that they "haven't ruled it out". The same could possible for a PC version, and while this is no reason to get your hopes up, it is reason to keep showing your support of a PC version.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-11 2:20 PM
Post #13356 - In reply to #12670

Just think of it this way: Halo 2, the Xbox case says For Xbox Only! Look what happened there. I quoted George Lucas on the movies never going to home video. Look where they ended up. Never give up hope, there's always a possibility.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-12 6:29 AM
Post #13373 - In reply to #13319

Originally written by Darth_CT_1175-SC on 2007-03-09 6:45 PM

Wow, I think the petition is working. Talk about Forces Unleashed on PC have spread throughout LA, and I'm pretty sure they're considering. Let's pray, unless your religion doesn't allow you to pray.


And you heard this where ? They edited the "release platforms" page on the TFU website to edit out the "next gen=PC" question

KOTO3 would not include online because that would make it an MMORPG and lucasarts already has one Star Wars Galaxies,plus i bet you anything you'd have to pay monthly for it (altho if its anything like SWG it'd be worth it
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-12 10:14 AM
Post #13375 - In reply to #12670

I was under the impression...that if you added Multiplayer to KOTOR... It would resemble Never Winter nights with better graphics, which to my understanding..is not a MMORPG...

It's not much to ask... Lanning/Internet capability where you can kill other players or join forces in quests or w/e that would expand the playability factor of that game. Who in the blazes would waste their time playing a single player only game 3 or 4 times.. Get a life. Lord forbid they bring out another Star Wars MMORPG...that would be bad.. Yeah right.

I'm still waiting for Star Wars Galaxies to come to my friggin continent...how long has it been now? like 6 years?

I just want to make it clear to whoever owns the license for this game/genre...That the world doesnt just exist out of the States and Europe or their opinions.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-12 5:30 PM
Post #13377 - In reply to #12670

You have a point, but look at it through their perspective. Europe and the US are where they're going to make the most profit out of it, and it's where they are. Of course they're going to hold them in high regard. Yes, it takes a while to spread, but it does. 6 years is a little high, true, but why not buy it online? You can type in English, why not buy the game? I see no problem, unless there's a legal factor I'm missing.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-12 8:14 PM
Post #13379 - In reply to #12670

Its been 4 years since the release of SWG,anyway i think we should get back on topic shouldnt we ?
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 8:13 AM
Post #13388 - In reply to #13356

Originally written by Darth_CT_1175-SC on 2007-03-11 2:20 PM

Just think of it this way: Halo 2, the Xbox case says For Xbox Only! Look what happened there. I quoted George Lucas on the movies never going to home video. Look where they ended up. Never give up hope, there's always a possibility.


First of all the Halo games are devloped by Microsoft for Xbox only and when they lived up thier hype value they release for PC like over a year later.
Now back on topic.If enough people light up Lucasarts website forums with posts about this,it may actually make a difference.Let's remember lucasarts was basically built off PC gamers and you better believe they dont want to piss off what little of a core audience they have left.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 8:58 AM
Post #13392 - In reply to #13388

Originally written by RagE_Visualizer on 2007-03-13 2:13 PM
Let's remember lucasarts was basically built off PC gamers and you better believe they dont want to piss off what little of a core audience they have left.


Hear hear...


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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 9:08 AM
Post #13393 - In reply to #12670

Yes, they did start with PC games. *ex. X-Wing vs TIE Fighter* But although we are a target for satisfaction, we need to face the facts: Console gaming is at its peak. True, we came first, but what brings in the dough? I wouldn't doubt that it will come out for PC within the next few months. All games have cycles, and right now, PC is at the lower end. When Forces Unleashed does come out for PC, so will several other games from different or the same franchise. They go where the money flows, it's natural instinct for big-time designers.
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Posted : 2007-03-13 2:16 PM
Post #13407 - In reply to #12670

Weighing consoles against computers is like weighing a semi against a freight train. Sure, the Semi can go other places other than the track, but in terms of half life.. The computer wins hands down. Where is the Sega Saturn now? Or the PS1? Or the X-Box 1 for that matter? Thanks largely to the fact that Windows is platform specific...*cough* PC *Cough*, we'll be around much longer than they will, regardless of their capability to go onto the net or play multiplayer games, watch DVD's, etc... The computer market is highly comparable with the console market, the only catch is, the games. If games are writen/coded specifically for consoles, then every 10 year old is going to begg mommy and daddy for the newest console every 3 - 4 years at the cost of [insert price tag here] only to get it replaced by a newer, better version that costs just as much, if not more. The computer? Costs less to upgrade than to buy a new console especially in 3rd world countries such as Africa, it's almost a 10th of the price and with the abibily to emulate console games which I believe, the consoles can't do. It's no contest. Sure, we have to sit on the tracks inbetween stations, but we can build tracks to go where ever we want them to and the Semi's can't exactly go off road. Except in Australia...

Stupid Ausiez...


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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 2:17 PM
Post #13408 - In reply to #12670

Here's some info from an article from smartmoney.com
" Online PC games have been around since the 1990s, but it hasn't been until recently that they've become such a lucrative and growing business. There are more than 124 million PC gamers in the U.S. alone, according to independent market research firm Yankee Group.
David Cole, an analyst at DFC Intelligence, a videogame research firm based in San Diego, estimates that the online gaming market for PC games will grow from a current $4 billion annually to $10 billion by 2011.
DFC's Cole says the online-gaming market for the consoles is a mere $200 million to $300 million currently. He expects it to grow to around $3 billion by 2011."

Dont think PC gamers are going extinct anytime soon
http://www.smartmoney.com/Techsmart/index.cfm?story=20070119&afl=yahoo
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 2:19 PM
Post #13409 - In reply to #12670

I forgor to put my point in....*kicks self*

The point is, hats off to all the stupid kiddies who go out and support console gaming at the cost of an arm and a leg only to lock the thing up in a closet after a few months.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 2:26 PM
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Heres another great article to read,heres a few paragraphs and a link.From Forbes.com

"The console games business is going to die and be replaced by something better. It might not be because making game consoles is now so expensive that they will break the platform companies themselves; it will also probably not be because you will be able to pirate console games on the net like any other piece of static media, and it is certainly not because computer games are a fad.

Simply put, massively multiplayer games will take over and they will be subscription-based, and available on a PC or whatever that platform morphs into.

The hardware monopoly wielded by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo becomes irrelevant when you can play an unstealable real-time game on the family PC over the net. One game, $1 billion in sales: Warcraft is the writing on the wall for the console makers.
Will there be a PS4? Perhaps, but not a PS5."

http://www.forbes.com/personalfinance/2006/12/19/xbox-playstation-gaming-pf-ii-in_cc_1219soapbox_inl.html

I dont know about you guys,but when it comes to the future of gaming,I'd rather believe real analysts and articles then simply peoples own dilusions on a forum board.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 5:08 PM
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>_> I used this on the MotR boards once: Consoles are Cupcakes and PC's are cakes :P
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 5:44 PM
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I agree, my family has nothing to get me so they get me consoles, which I found to run out of lust. PC will keep going, but so will consoles. As someone stated, I expect by the time the PS5 is out *which will no doubt not use a TV, just be a hologram, in my opinion* a new computer software that matches it will also be out. We just need to know this: MONEY. Money is why they make consoles and console games. I know plenty of consoles *ahem* Xbox that came from PC. Sony, an electronic company, which was electronics before it was PS1, and, well, GameCube and stuff, they came on their own. All we need is faith. LA knows who to satisfy, and Forces Unleashed will come to us soon. *Hopefully, the PS7 won't be out by then at the rate they're cranking out consoles*
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-13 5:47 PM
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And Wes, you have a good point. Consoles to cupcakes with PCs to cakes. The consoles are just to sweeten the child, while the PC keeps you occupied. Great analogy!
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-14 9:24 PM
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Wise i am :P
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-15 5:30 PM
Post #13488 - In reply to #12670

Hopefully you're more wise than Wes Janson... But, anyways, back on topic! Forces Unleashed is a game very similar to others. It starts on one thing and spreads to all *of course, the chances of Halo going to Sony are zip* We just need patience... But, of course, I have a copy reserved for PS3.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-16 1:00 AM
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Originally written by RagE_Visualizer on 2007-03-13 7:26 AM

Heres another great article to read,heres a few paragraphs and a link.From Forbes.com

"The console games business is going to die and be replaced by something better. It might not be because making game consoles is now so expensive that they will break the platform companies themselves; it will also probably not be because you will be able to pirate console games on the net like any other piece of static media, and it is certainly not because computer games are a fad.

Simply put, massively multiplayer games will take over and they will be subscription-based, and available on a PC or whatever that platform morphs into.

The hardware monopoly wielded by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo becomes irrelevant when you can play an unstealable real-time game on the family PC over the net. One game, $1 billion in sales: Warcraft is the writing on the wall for the console makers.
Will there be a PS4? Perhaps, but not a PS5."

http://www.forbes.com/personalfinance/2006/12/19/xbox-playstation-gaming-pf-ii-in_cc_1219soapbox_inl.html

I dont know about you guys,but when it comes to the future of gaming,I'd rather believe real analysts and articles then simply peoples own dilusions on a forum board.


I agree that PCs are better of course but im not sure whether or not i agree with the analysts' idea about there not being a PS5. On the one hand one has to ask: "Will the PS4 and a possible PS5 really be that much different or revolutionary?" I mean when it comes down to it, the PS3 is basically the PS2 with a video upgrade. will people really be that interested in a PS4 when all it offers is better graphics? why not just get a PC and have the ability to upgrade the graphics card when ever you want rather then wait years for another several hundred dollar console to come out? this seems like a logical idea but then with the PS3 there were people camping out side stores for days, taking off work, and faring the weather and for what? an upgraded PS2? my point is don't rule out willingness to buy expensive consoles by people who have never experienced PC gaming.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-16 10:59 AM
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Great explanation, Krayt, but why make a PS3 in the first place? It all adds up, they're going to keep making them. PS2 was fine on its own. As you said, it's just better graphics. Let them make more. It'll be their loss.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-16 3:32 PM
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Originally written by Darth_CT_1175-SC on 2007-03-16 3:59 AM

Great explanation, Krayt, but why make a PS3 in the first place? It all adds up, they're going to keep making them. PS2 was fine on its own. As you said, it's just better graphics. Let them make more. It'll be their loss.


How do you figure it will be their loss when they are making crap loads of money off of it? The people it hurts is us in the case of games like the force unleashed where they make it for consoles over the dedicated PC gamers.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-17 9:00 AM
Post #13513 - In reply to #12670

How do figure that Krayt?

Losing an entire market because your ignoring it will have an effect on your profitability...so says economics. Ignoring an entire market is one sure way of losing the consumer base(us) and our support in the future.

Sure, they have a monopoly when it comes to star Wars games, but if we dont buy them... There's no point in their existance.

They started with the computer market and if things continue going as they do, it will end with the computer market.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-18 7:44 PM
Post #13528 - In reply to #12670

We've drifted too far off topic. This is about Forces Unleashed, not how console gaming is going to make its money. How about we discuss the possibilities instead of console possibilities?
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-19 10:14 AM
Post #13545 - In reply to #12670

Dont be daft. The topics are interconnected.

If a game is not meant for the PC...Then its meant for consoles and the reasoning behind it?

I rest my case. Continue
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-19 6:44 PM
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Ooh! Ooh! I know the reason! *whispers under breath* Because console makers are jealous of the PC so they pay LucasArts lots of money to make a console-only game* Just a whisper, though...

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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-30 11:31 PM
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Hang on now, I have something that could be worthwhile. I know people in my home where you can buy a PS2 for $20. I'm sure you have some money in you're on a computer daily, visiting ER? So why not just do that and get Forces Unleashed when it comes out for that? I was fortunate enough to get a PS2 and a Nintendo DS early in the game, so I'm set, but still...
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-02 12:15 PM
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I've read every post in this topic and have kept fairly quiet. From my understanding, the desire to have this game on PC is a pretty sound idea. From a gamer and modder standpoint it could offer some exciting and enjoyable gameplay. However, and you knew this was coming, LucasArts makes enough money off the console releases that they are slowly growing less than intrested with PC gamers. To me this is pretty stupid because many of the designers that currently work at LA were probably gamers that played more PC based games than the old 16bit Star Wars games on Nintendo.

As far as consoles vs PCs go, give me a pc. I can upgrade however I like, I can make new levels and mission maps for most of the games I play. Consoles are for lazy people that just want to set there with a six pack and push a couple of buttons. Lets compare them to cares, PCs are hot rods where consoles is the family staton wagon. The PC needs updated every once in a while where the console just needs to be turned on. LucasArts and a majority of other game designers will eventually stop making PC titles. So for us Star Wars fans, better enjoy it while you can.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-02 6:40 PM
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Sadly, I find you're words impossible. LucasArts won't stop making games for another 14 years, because that's how much longer they have a contract with Petroglyph and Microsoft. They need a game at least every 5-6 years, otherwise they get a little of the original profit that comes out of the entire franchise link. We got a while, and by then, they'll realize we are the ones who matter, not the, as you said, six-pack chuggers pushing buttons.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 9:42 AM
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Yea, keep that dream going. LA doesnt need to do anymore PC titles if they dont want. Last time I checked, didnt Microsoft own the Xbox? That covers that.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 4:55 PM
Post #13973 - In reply to #13956

Originally written by Darktrooper on 2007-04-03 9:42 AM didnt Microsoft own the Xbox? That covers that.


I hope that doesnt mean LA will try to make a console.

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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 6:39 PM
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No, because Microsoft doesn't just OWN the console. They MADE the console. And ''keep that dream going"? "LA doesn't need us"? Sure they do! As stated, they have a contract not easily broken. Besides, if you're going to do nothing but disprove this entire thread, then leave. We don't need discouragement.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 6:42 PM
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And I HIGHLY doubt LucasArts would attempt at a console. You see, the whole console makers are bigger companies, not game makers. PS2 is Sony, also a TV company. Nintendo, is, well, ALL games, and made it's money off of the games. Xbox is from Microsoft, a HUGE company. Any other game consoles you need description? *PS* DS in Nintendo, GameBoy is Nintendo, PSP is Sony, and any other handhelds are most likely from a bigger company.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-04 12:53 AM
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Please refrain from hostility because you dont like my posts. First, I am being devils advocate. Secondly, you're taking the console statement out of context. You stated that LA has a contract with Microsoft, correct this if I am in error. Now I stated that Microsoft owned Xbox, Xbox 360. Soooo, if LA has a contract with Microsoft to produce games, would it not stand to reason that these games would be developed for the greater cash cow in their eyes? I agree that LA should continue to produce games for the PC market, but I also know that they are concerned more with the bottom line in revenue than making a few thousand fans happy.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-04 6:48 PM
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This again is getting out of hand. I'll simplify my words: Petroglyph and Microsoft must work with LucasArts to make games. The games they make for Xbox will ALSO be out on PC, as part of the contract. However, Force Unleashed wasn't to be released on Xbox, as stated on www.lucasarts.com. I'll even copy/paste the platform releases.

Platforms:

PlayStation 2, PSP
(Krome Studios)

Nintendo DS
(n-Space, Inc.)

This is why Force Unleashed isn't coming out on PC so quickly. However, there is a chance as long as they make it for Xbox as well. Basically, we're getting the same deal for another 14 years. I think we're set.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-05 3:27 AM
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I agree with that. I would also like to point out that many members of the modding community are trying to push for more games like this to be released as a pc game. Of course being modders, the chance for adaptability is there as well. Take 2142 for instance. It's the hot ticket right now, so hot that others are currently overhauling it to make a Star Wars version.
For those that dont know here is the link for this new mod: http://mods.moddb.com/6512/first-strike/ So if it can be done with this game, I'm sure others can be done as well. Sorry if I seem to be against the ideas of this topic, I'm not. I just wanted everyone to see the other side of the issue and what could happen.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-11 12:37 AM
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This arguement really shouldn't be about whether or not LA needs us. Hell no they dont. they could sell this game just to the PS2 and make a butt load of money off of it. The reason that they sell it to multiple consoles isn't because they *need* any of them. It is because the motive of LA is first and foremost to make money. So the question then becomes *why* don't they make if for PC? From a developers stand point, it would be relatively easy to tweak the PS3 game you are making to work on a PC just as easy as it would be to make it an Xbox 360 (which you all know they are actually doing). So why aren't they making it for PC? some of you have argued its cuz they don't need the business of PC users. Frankly that idea is just stupid. If you might allow me to use a rather poorly constructed analogy: If you are selling a product like lets say an Ipod and the only color it comes in is White, but you still make a lot of money that is fine. But if there is a large group of people out there who will make you millions but only if the product is black, then why the hell wouldn't you do it? is one of the simplest changes you can make and it will increase you're profit by 50%+. Yet this is exactly what LA is doing by not making a relatively simple change to greatly increase profits and we are left with the question of why they are taking such a seemingly stupid action.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-11 9:56 AM
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Um... Interesting analogy. Truly, I think we're getting our hopes too high. I mean, I'm not complaining, to be honest. I have consoles to use on my spare time when our PC or internet doesn't work. And some consoles, like the PS2, are really cheap now. As stated, I could buy a PS2 for about $20 where I live.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-11 11:29 AM
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Ok this has gotten out of hand I for one have given up hope on LA with there lack of product support especially with SWBF2 have any of you accualy called LA and spoke with a tech well I have they are just morons even there supervisiors dont know sh** about how to fix a problem, with that said just give up cause they arent gonna make it for PC so why waste your time just move on and play a diffrent game that accually has product support and accualy gives a damm what we think I have moved on to the BF series BF2 and 2142(even tho I swore id never play another EA game but look at me now) granted it has its messs ups and flaws but at least they try to fix issues that pop up with patches and beta testing. and for all you SWBF2 players playing in ER I give you props for even keeping a dead game alive when it should be shot in the head and burried. But with out product support why even bother, to each is own. My bet is when DX 10 is out for awhile they will relase a port or by that time SWBF3 will be out.....lol
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-11 6:58 PM
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You insulted people I know, which is really rude. The tech supervisors and managers at LucasArts are NOT morons. They're intelligent people, more intelligent than you, for that matter. Don't ASSUME things. Assumptions never did anyone good. Take a look at Anakin Skywalker. But this hasn't got out of hand, LucasArts isn't ignoring us, you're just spreading lies and bringing our faith down.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-11 7:44 PM
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ok have you spent 2 1/2 hrs on the phone with LA's techs no so STFU there best advise was to buy the cd version of the game when I had allready bought the DVD version when it came out and after the patch the dam thing didnt wanna work so the suggested that I either buy another copy but make sure it was the cd version and not the dvd version what a waste of 50 bucks and another thing move on the game will not come out for the PC so ask mommy or daddy to buy it for and stop you complaining all I gotta say is that its one less LA game on the PC. George can stick it for all I care.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-13 9:50 AM
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You talk all smack about LA and the game, yet it hasn't even come out. You speak like they have it out and a patch for it, which is wrong. You're just lying. The game doesn't come out until, eh, 2008.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-13 10:10 AM
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lets see swbf2 had 1 patch that was soposed to fix issues it only created more problems. and Ill talk all the smack I want about LA im just going by there track record. Not to say EA has a spotless on but at least they try to fix the problems that pop up.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-06-01 11:33 PM
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Interesting,if you type in Force Unleashed on Google you'll come accross a link to Amazon.com in the UK with the ability to pre-order the game for the PC.Very interesting indeed.


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Posted : 2007-06-02 6:16 AM
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I would just like to point out that in the Force Unleashed section of the LA site it says Next Gen Consoles while the new LA game Fracture specifically says PS3 and Xbox 360. Now if the game was only being made for PS3 and Xbox 360 of the possible Next Gen systems then it would list those specifically. A probable reason that LA would say "Next Gen Consoles" could either be that they are making it for PC, or that they are at least considering it. Some might say it is because they are thinking of making it for Wii and this could be a possibility but it would be smarter of LA to make a different game that is specifically for the Wii with game play designed for the Wii controller setup.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-06-02 11:19 AM
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Originally written by -(DW)-Krayt88 on 2007-06-02 7:16 AM
Some might say it is because they are thinking of making it for Wii and this could be a possibility but it would be smarter of LA to make a different game that is specifically for the Wii with game play designed for the Wii controller setup.


Light Saber Game Planned for Wii?
Oh nerds rejoice, your beloved make believe Star Wars light saber fantasy may soon be coming true on gaming supersystem the Nintendo Wii.

Just check http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/index.html for more.


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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-06-07 2:02 AM
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And don't forget, Force Unleashed is released for "Next and Current-Gen Consoles". On the fact, I hate to admit it, but they're not making it for PC. After viewing a review, it seems like PC-compatibility just isn't possible with Force Unleashed. The controls require rapidness in clicking, which would mean pounding on your keyboard. Some things just can't be used on both PC and consoles.


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