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User Profile If you agree to play a match on Mos Eisly in Flag Week then your playing at your own risk.Theres nothing in rules that we can do preent eh jawas interfering.I myself was in a match last night a Jawa took our flag and ran away with it.Now Im not going to kill it cuase then I would get -10 points.And of course I followed to see where it goes incase opponent kills it then I need to defend it.
Bottom line is,if you dont like Jawas then dont agree to play on Mos Esily.If you agree to play then accept the fact Jawas do disrupt matches and matches still count regardless.
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User Profile I don't know what they were thinking, adding the damn Jawa's lkie that. I wonder if they played the game before they shipped it out.
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User Profile Originally written by CHucKNoRRiS on 2007-06-19 2:13 PM
I think the only problem that you might want to report to us is
u keeping is in suspense for awaiting the completion of the sentence? lolI think the only problem that you might want to report to us is
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User Profile or you could agree to play with no bots
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User Profile Originally written by ~FL~Stewie G on 2007-06-19 8:01 PM
or you could agree to play with no bots
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or you could agree to play with no bots
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Well, Stewie if you dont know already Vis posted that no bot option isnt in the flag week rules. Its just for conquest week.
This probably happened with rushing to get some maps done which is why this has happened but other than that just deal with it if you do play on Mos Eisley.
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User Profile Quite honestly,if the biatching doesnt stop its going to persuade a lot of people to make all SWBFII with no bots cause that would end a lot of the problems.
Jawas would be gone so no more herding...
Agreeing to play a map with tanks but using no tanks,then a bot gets in a tank and everyone is arguing that someone is using tanks.....
I mean its getting very annoying to see people crying over stupid crap.People say its an outrage with no bots cause the events have always used bots, yet complain and biatch about everything that involves an incident with a bot,you cant have it both ways.
One thing I'm definately going to think about is Player Names turned on,cause at least then people could see if its an actual player doing something and not a stupid bot.
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User Profile I think giving in to removing the bots to appease certain incessant individuals here is much the same as rewarding a child for throwing a temper tantrum over a box of candy. It does us no good but to just shut them up.
I do appreciate your clarification to the rule, because I believe at one point it was listed in the rules as an exploit right alongside of the wall exploits. TAW was infamous for using it so nobody played Mos in FW for the longest time.
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User Profile I think you misunderstood my post Bobbafet.There are more people who support bots that are complaining about incidents that actually involve bots.People who hate bots have basically dealt with it and just play and weve had not a single complaint.So my suggestion was meant to "shut up" the people crying and whining about incidents that involve bots.They cant have it both ways.
As long as player names are turned off who can prove anything?The other night we did a match against eX and a jawa took the flag and ran with it.Am I suppose to kill the jawa and lose 10 points or follow it until its killed and then defend the flag.To accuse people of herding is stupid.With no player names on you cant accuse anyone.And for people to do a match and accuse people of herding and then demand a redo on a different match or threaten them to be reported is totally innappropiate.The issue should have brought to a mods attention with actual proof and not threaten an opposing team.The original 2 matches shall be counted and the redo matches will not count.
And I know I will never play a map again with tanks and agree to not using tanks.Since I was accused of using a tank which clearly I wasnt cause I was inside a building and just killed a member of opposing team.SO how someone could claim they saw me get in a tank,thats just plain stupid.Again player names arnt on so how can someone claim it was a player and not a bot.Of course when the situation was reversed and a tank came in our back door and unloaded they acknowledged it was a bot,but all it did was disrupt our match with people accusing each other of BS.
People cant complain and make accusations and expect to have things both ways.If we keep bots then deal with the impact they can have in a match,or we should lose the bots to shut people up once and for all,but people need to stop playing on both sides of the fence.
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User Profile Im also going to discuss with Maelstrom how innappropiate it is to threaten a club into doing a redo on a different match simply because an accusation was made.In my opinion thats completely wrong and could be viewed as misconduct.
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User Profile I did not appreciate being man handled and threatened by an admin for something that I never even did. Especially because there's no way to prove anything. That was seriously taking advantage of admin privileges.
I do believe bots only cause problems and often prevent the more talented team from winning.
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User Profile Originally written by RagE_Visualizer on 2007-06-20 10:31 AM
As long as player names are turned off who can prove anything?The other night we did a match against eX and a jawa took the flag and ran with it.Am I suppose to kill the jawa and lose 10 points or follow it until its killed and then defend the flag.To accuse people of herding is stupid.With no player names on you cant accuse anyone.And for people to do a match and accuse people of herding and then demand a redo on a different match or threaten them to be reported is totally innappropiate.The issue should have brought to a mods attention with actual proof and not threaten an opposing team.The original 2 matches shall be counted and the redo matches will not count.
As long as player names are turned off who can prove anything?The other night we did a match against eX and a jawa took the flag and ran with it.Am I suppose to kill the jawa and lose 10 points or follow it until its killed and then defend the flag.To accuse people of herding is stupid.With no player names on you cant accuse anyone.And for people to do a match and accuse people of herding and then demand a redo on a different match or threaten them to be reported is totally innappropiate.The issue should have brought to a mods attention with actual proof and not threaten an opposing team.The original 2 matches shall be counted and the redo matches will not count.
The situation in your match with eX is not jawa herding! I'm not sure if you ever played TAW or not in Mos Eisley... but Jawa herding is when the other team "herds" a jawa INTO THEIR FLAG and then protects it in a corner. If TR is calling jawa herding on if a jawa accidentally gets the flag, then do what you're doing. But if LW was seen forcing the jawa into the flag, that's herding.
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User Profile man every tournament...stop the crying already..ER uses bots plain and simple..if your so good..kill the bots!! Stop playing mos eisley..its taht simple.. It seems as the age around here has dropped from 20+ to 12!! just play the game!!
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User Profile I would like to point out that well LW is against bots in matches we've never once raised a fuss about something a bot has done in a match.
Now TR on the other hand are all stalwart supporters of bots, went crazy about bot jawas. Anyway see the hypocrisy?
And we didn't herd the jawas, why would we bother.
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User Profile Chuck with player names turned off how can anyone definatively prove that it was a LW player herding a jawa and not just another bot.Its all pure speculation and accusations.Hell Ive seen bots follow each other over the side into the water on Kamino,are we gonna have people claiming that others are herding bots to thier death now on that map to drive down ticket counts.Its becoming clear that a no bot solution is what may be needed to stop this nonsense and get people playing again instead of whining.
I'd also like to point out we went through this past CW and also Space Week without a single incident or problems.Now certain players are back and all the problems are centered around these same people again and its getting real old real fast.
Like Musa said,just shut up and play or dont play at all.
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User Profile BElieve me Vis you can tell. Anyway... If people have a problem with something did, get proof and send it to one of us. Don't make a big frickin deal about it on these forums, it only serves to screw this whole place up more. I know you want your stars for posting, but get them elsewhere.
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User Profile I was not aware that there was a discrepancy in a match that my team played in? Can someone please PM me the details?
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User Profile Originally written by CHucKNoRRiS on 2007-06-20 7:38 PM
BElieve me Vis you can tell. Anyway... If people have a problem with something did, get proof and send it to one of us.
BElieve me Vis you can tell. Anyway... If people have a problem with something did, get proof and send it to one of us.
You claim you can tell,but even Jimmy admitted he was wrong after he accused me of using a tank.He claims he saw me get in the tank which was impossible cause I was in the hallway killing Yankeefan while he was making his accusations.Point being with names off no one can for certain point the finger at anyone.To me its just simple provocation and trying to cause trouble which I witnessed first hand and was involved in one incident.
And no Fook your clan is not involved in an incident,I merely used a match I played against eX as an example cause the Jawa took the flag in it and theres nothing anyone could do.
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User Profile Stop making lessons out of Jimmy please, he's getting quite angry.
And he's not in fact the only one who does stuff wrong, he was just the first who got punished.
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User Profile Originally written by -=LW=- Weezer on 2007-06-20 1:37 PM
I did not appreciate being man handled and threatened by an admin for something that I never even did. Especially because there's no way to prove anything. That was seriously taking advantage of admin privileges.
I do believe bots only cause problems and often prevent the more talented team from winning.
I did not appreciate being man handled and threatened by an admin for something that I never even did. Especially because there's no way to prove anything. That was seriously taking advantage of admin privileges.
I do believe bots only cause problems and often prevent the more talented team from winning.
Are you implying I man handled and threatened you? If so, I clearly have the chat logs indicating our amicable agreement to replay the matches in place of the others. It was an effort to stem the resulting fights and the bullcrap could be sorted without the hurt feelings on either side.
I certainly hope that I have misinterpreted this.
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User Profile First off, Mos Eisley is play at your own risk, so I am not sure why matches have to be replayed.
Second, the condition of "herding" is ambiguous to defend or complain about. If a Jawa steals your flag or runs off with the one you are trying to capture, this is not herding, however, it can be easily viewed as this.
Third, names are turned off and I do not know how you know who did what specifically in a match, outside that it is the other team.
In conclusion, Mos Eisley is a play at your own risk map. If you are willing to deal with the potential problems this map causes, go ahead and play but I do not believe there should be any complaints about it.
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User Profile Feel free to post the entire "amicable" chat logs. It was pretty clear how you cornered me.
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User Profile Originally written by -=LW=- Weezer on 2007-06-21 11:06 AM
Feel free to post the entire "amicable" chat logs. It was pretty clear how you cornered me.
Feel free to post the entire "amicable" chat logs. It was pretty clear how you cornered me.
I've seen the chat logs Weezer... You were in NO WAY cornered and could have fought it. If I were you I would have fought it and I could think of at least 1 way I could argue the point. So stop playing Victim here. In fact, right now you're fighing it only because you have so many people backing you. But you didn't try to fight it before becuase you didn't have your buddies backing you. If you know it was wrong then why did you wait until you had the rest of ER at your side?
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User Profile Originally written by Maelstrom on 2007-06-21 8:37 AM
First off, Mos Eisley is play at your own risk, so I am not sure why matches have to be replayed.
Second, the condition of "herding" is ambiguous to defend or complain about. If a Jawa steals your flag or runs off with the one you are trying to capture, this is not herding, however, it can be easily viewed as this.
Third, names are turned off and I do not know how you know who did what specifically in a match, outside that it is the other team.
In conclusion, Mos Eisley is a play at your own risk map. If you are willing to deal with the potential problems this map causes, go ahead and play but I do not believe there should be any complaints about it.
First off, Mos Eisley is play at your own risk, so I am not sure why matches have to be replayed.
Second, the condition of "herding" is ambiguous to defend or complain about. If a Jawa steals your flag or runs off with the one you are trying to capture, this is not herding, however, it can be easily viewed as this.
Third, names are turned off and I do not know how you know who did what specifically in a match, outside that it is the other team.
In conclusion, Mos Eisley is a play at your own risk map. If you are willing to deal with the potential problems this map causes, go ahead and play but I do not believe there should be any complaints about it.
All well said,and as stated no matches should have been replayed so the original matches will stand the replayed matches will be removed,end of story.
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User Profile Umm im not sure what really went down but it is hard to conclude from the 2 different stories. Knowing Boba i do not think he would have waved his admin powers around , although i also dont think LW would lie about this. So its hard for me to find out what really happenend. I think we shouldve just kept both matches but its all over so w/e
---posting my opinion but thx crazy....
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