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DS_Darkwolf

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Subject : a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-18 5:25 PM
Post #19355

I'd like to make a suggestion that applies only to the RC tournaments. This hasn't been given a great deal of thought by me as I only just came up with it (not that its an original idea by any means though). I think it might be beneficial to switch the RC tournaments to organized pre-scheduled matches in a bracket or ladder format. It would eliminate much of the current bull**** that is going around the current tournament such as the dropping of matches, the "blackballing", ect. I'm only suggesting this not because I prefer that type of tournament over the type we have now, but because if things keep going the way they are now in another year or two ER RC tournies are going to be a thing of the past. One example of this is the internally hosted DS tournies. These are amazingly fun because of the attitude that people take with them. Its not do or die, its simply for fun as it should be. Also, theres really almost none of this crap that has been increasingly happening during ER RC tournies. Simply put, either we need to change something in the way ER runs the RC tournies (or *somehow* change the RC community itself) or the main competitions in Republic Commando are going to become these inner-clan ones.
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<}sr{>sith

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-19 2:05 PM
Post #19395 - In reply to #19355

i disagree. the rules around here arent strict enof in my opinion. if the rules were tightened up and posted somewhere easiley accessable people would stop doing all of this bs. ppl argue over wat is the rules and what is not all the time. if the mods would just put and clarify the rules i think everythin would run smoothly.

the problem of person asking for a match and not playing it could be specified as a rule. that the person asking HAS to play and what not. if the person has to leave the other team has to reagree to the match b4 it is played etc.
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=FS= bprendy

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-19 7:40 PM
Post #19408 - In reply to #19355

The rules link on each event is not sufficient? If there is something you would like clarified all you have to do is ask...
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DS_Darkwolf

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-19 9:13 PM
Post #19413 - In reply to #19395

Originally written by <}sr{>sith on 2007-09-19 2:05 PM

i disagree. the rules around here arent strict enof in my opinion. if the rules were tightened up and posted somewhere easiley accessable people would stop doing all of this bs. ppl argue over wat is the rules and what is not all the time. if the mods would just put and clarify the rules i think everythin would run smoothly.

the problem of person asking for a match and not playing it could be specified as a rule. that the person asking HAS to play and what not. if the person has to leave the other team has to reagree to the match b4 it is played etc.



I think that the rules are as specific and clear as they need to be. The rules can't and shouldn't have to cover every situation. The problem is that the members of the RC community seem to be unable to act cooperatively and give eachother a basic level of respect. Matches scheduled by ER would help to smooth out some of the problems caused by the stupid actions people make when making up their own matches IMO.

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=FS= Havick

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-19 10:21 PM
Post #19414 - In reply to #19355

I've thought about it before, but after thinking hard about it,; clans like the free rain. If we did this,we would need to have clubs submit teams for the event, and only those people would be able to play togahter. This takes out some of the current stats as well.

Not only that, but we cannot force players to be there at t certain time... think how many force loses we would have... This isn't a profesional sport here.

I like the idea, but I think there are too many problems to over come with it. 


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=FS=Ussbig

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-20 1:46 PM
Post #19446 - In reply to #19355

Saddly its not really practical, and would defeat the pourpose

Since some clans are better then others, it forces some players to not get to play, and some who want to play more dont get to.

I dont think its workable unfortunatly

:/

Uss
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Wrath

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-20 11:27 PM
Post #19491 - In reply to #19355

I happen to agree 100% and i think this would eliminate alot of hard feelings and "blackballing" and really all of the things about tornements that drive us nuts...such as it taking 30 min for a match!
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LePube

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-09-24 2:08 AM
Post #19583 - In reply to #19355

i dont the ladder idea, most people cant schedule for that
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Flash

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-01 1:32 PM
Post #19697 - In reply to #19408

Originally written by =FS= bprendy on 2007-09-19 7:40 PM

The rules link on each event is not sufficient? If there is something you would like clarified all you have to do is ask...


Placing a rule that states "no talking in game" would solve so many problems it wouldnt even be funny.


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=FS= Havick

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-01 4:51 PM
Post #19699 - In reply to #19697

Originally written by Flash on 2007-10-01 12:32 PM

Originally written by =FS= bprendy on 2007-09-19 7:40 PM The rules link on each event is not sufficient? If there is something you would like clarified all you have to do is ask...
Placing a rule that states "no talking in game" would solve so many problems it wouldnt even be funny.

It was suggest before...

Do you really need someone to hold your hand though these events? Should we really stop everyone from talking in game because a few people don't know when to shut it?

It's very simple, take the time to think about what you're saying before you hit enter.

Non of this is directed at your personaly Flash. But I am sick of hearing people want rules to keep themselves out of trouble/in check if only they had thought about what they were saying/doing before hand they would hve been fine. Actions have consequences, fair or not. Own up to them, learn from then and move on.


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=FS= Talon

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-01 9:09 PM
Post #19705 - In reply to #19355

Yeah, I came up with that suggestion a while ago. It would solve alot of problems going on. I don't see the problem with it.
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=FS=enercy

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-02 3:02 PM
Post #19710 - In reply to #19355

Which is? I like any ideas about improving the game in any way!
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The Dude

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-04 6:02 PM
Post #19740 - In reply to #19355

I've given an idea like this a thought as well.

I was thinking more of a 'trainer' idea. Something like getting the top ranked players in a tournament to play with the bottom players in that tournament who were in their clan. They would have to play a minimum number of matches with that person, say the minimum number of matches to rank. If we did something like the top 5 training the bottom 5, it would improve the overall gameplay and probably improve the experience.

If I keep thinking about it I think there will be more to add, please post comments about it.
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=FS= Havick

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-04 10:49 PM
Post #19747 - In reply to #19355

First, I like new ideas and I would like to seem them continually presented.

Dude, there are a few problems wiht your idea. ER does not have the recources to set that up (top matched with bottom players). Players skills are always changing. But not only that, there are some clans that have obvious skill advantages over other.

It's not meant to knock on any one club, but I am being realistic about it.

Please keep your ideas coming though. If things are going to chnage for the better, then we need ideas.


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The Dude

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-05 8:11 AM
Post #19751 - In reply to #19355

Yeh I realised that a little after I posted. I'd like to think we could rely on the clanner's sense of honour to train/play with the person they should, but these forums are a perfect example of why we can't, imo.

Any chance we could set up a "Training Week"? If not for everyone to play and learn in, do it as clan internal tournaments. I'd like to see every clan getting together and training their new recruits with each other, sharing their knowledge, making every player better. It's probably a pipe dream, but I would love to see it.
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sandking

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-05 4:40 PM
Post #19760 - In reply to #19355

Yeah but dude don't forget about time changes too and schedules that is a constant problem just in motr I am sure that it is the same with just about any clan . . .
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=FS= Talon

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-05 5:45 PM
Post #19764 - In reply to #19355

You guys look at TGL. Its a well run tournament cyberathlete league.

If ER wants to hit the big run. Think they should start this.
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The Dude

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-05 8:30 PM
Post #19771 - In reply to #19355

I know time is tight, but there are always people who make it for BW/DW. I realise this would be different because clans would have to mix to train together, but I really would like this to be worked out, especially in the public domain, because if it goes to private talks it will probably fail.

This would definately improve the RC tournament situation.
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=FS= Havick

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-05 9:11 PM
Post #19773 - In reply to #19771

Originally written by The Dude on 2007-10-05 7:30 PM

I know time is tight, but there are always people who make it for BW/DW. I realise this would be different because clans would have to mix to train together, but I really would like this to be worked out, especially in the public domain, because if it goes to private talks it will probably fail. This would definately improve the RC tournament situation.

You've lost me now...


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The Dude

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-07 12:32 PM
Post #19795 - In reply to #19355

I mean I know that with school, work etc. and simple organisation it will be difficult to set something like a training week up.

There's also the added dynamic of IF we get the clans to train together, getting everyone on at the same time.

I also would prefer if the ideas and discussion were kept to this forum, rather than going to Xfire or PM's, as I think it will die if that happens.
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=FS= Havick

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-07 12:44 PM
Post #19796 - In reply to #19355

ER is  tournement site, not a training site. The whole point of the events is to see which clan has trained their members the best. That of course comes second to having fun. :P

ER is not here to create a leave playing feild. That is up to the clans in their off time.

From waht I see most clans just get their practice matches inbetween events by just getting a team and then asking another clan. MotR has been doing this a lot recently.


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The Dude

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Subject : RE: a suggestion
Posted : 2007-10-07 4:08 PM
Post #19797 - In reply to #19355

Fair enough.




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