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MotR Mods & Suggestions
 Maelstrom Last Activity 2007-12-30 4:12 AM
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{MotR}utengineer

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Subject : MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 1:21 PM
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Hello ER Mod Staff!
I have a few suggestions and ideas I would like you to consider. I am sure there will be various opinions on this topic. The root of these ideas spawns from numerous discussions from the MotR membership.

1. Stop allowing roster changes after event starts. I feel if players think their match will get deleted, they will make sure their fellow players are listed before going into the match. Nobody wants to waste their time playing to just have the match deleted. This will also free up some time for the ER mods and eliminate confusion. Ultimately this forces the clan members to pay more attention to stuff like this.

2. Require the player in each match to edit their in-game name to match the one here at ER. This makes match reporting easier at the time of submitting and would help eliminate submitting scores for the wrong player. This also makes it easier for a Mod to verify screenshots in disputes. Plus, it allows all players that keep back-up screenshots and personally verify the match reports themselves. Really it's not hard to press ~, then type name ______. This again, makes the job of the Mod easier.

3. Add a MotR Mod. MotR has continuously fielded some of the larger teams per event and participated just as much as any clan. Since we have a very competitive membership, our outright involvement in the event is going to cause us to be involved more so in the disputes/conflicts/arguments. It's obvious that Mods help enforce rules in-game. This in turn gives the Mod effective control over a situation with THEIR players. Therefore, A MotR Mod would have this same control that could help MotR assist and control our members. Our players would benefit from having someone assist in resolving issues, AND making sure the issues are valid. This ALSO benefits the Mod staff from excessive work and time.

4. In the past, MotR Mods enabled our clan to get better communication established. This worked well within our clan since we had so many members participating in ER events. Obviously when BloodyMary was our ER Mod, she helped in match disputes, but she also had a server for neutral hosting. I am not sure what your requirements are for being a Mod. Question is who you think from MotR can serve as a good one. We currently have a topic in our forums concerning this, so maybe someone from our membership would come forward. Either way it would be nice to know exactly what is expected from a Mod and their responsibilities.

Thanks for your attention! UT

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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 3:53 PM
Post #21594 - In reply to #21589

UT,

I will respond to your "MotR specific issues via PM, and if you decide to you can share this information with your members that is fine as it should probably come from you rather the other individuals who have contact me from your clan.. I do not think that it would be in the best interest of MotR or ER to discuss those matter on this forum wiht the other 5-7 clans and 200+ players that play RC.   I would be happy to discuss this with you as the clan leader of MotR, and it probably something we should have discussed sometime ago.

Regarding your other issues, Roster changes. The following sections are in the rules for each event. They are rather repetitive, but the speak to your suggestion in numerious ways. We basically say the same thing over and over again. In the past this was not enforced and the moderators had to spend hours trying to resolve this issues. The latest attempt to fix the unregistered player problem has been to the put the responsibility on the players reporting/playing in the match.  The last strategy which alerted the Club Captains via PM failed miserable as for the 4-6 events when we tried that we never once got contact by a club captain to resolve the player not on rosters.  The current strategy has been the most effective with regards to reducing the frequency of these matches.

1. Stop allowing roster changes after event starts. I feel if players think their match will get deleted, they will make sure their fellow players are listed before going into the match. Nobody wants to waste their time playing to just have the match deleted. This will also free up some time for the ER mods and eliminate confusion. Ultimately this forces the clan members to pay more attention to stuff like this.

This is addressed in the rules to the event.  However allowing people to affiliate (join but not leave a club) is an ER wide policy. Having the RC policy differ from the standard ER policy would be counterproductive.  Allowing people to affiate is a positive thing, (for now). The problem isn't allowing people how honestly forgot to affil or thought they were affil'd the problem is people who aren't even registered.  Not allowing people to affiliate would likely cause other problems as it removes our ability to address these issues when they happen (unintentially). The larger issue is when a player (usually a top 10 player) plays 30+ matches with 2 or more unregistereds. We have no way to verify this, so putting the responsibility on them is the best solution.  The recent rule change which says the reported is responsible for making sure the particapants are registered has reduced the number of "player not on roster" reported matches by over 1/3.   The moderators feel that this is acceptable an will only continue to improve as the word gets out (often people don't read the event rules).

1. Registration

All Clans MUST be registered with Ecliptical Realms in order to participate in Republic Commando events. Club Captains must have all participating members registered with ER and affiliated with their Club including the Captain approving themselves.

2. Setup and Coordination of Matches 
a) Match Agreement:
During match setup, when maps, hosts, number of matches, in game species, and competing sides are chosen, players on each team should be announced to help enforce that all players in the match are signed up at Ecliptical Realms and are active on a club.

 c) Membership:
Clan and player membership should be verified prior to each battle event. ER names must match in-game names.

d 3. Rosters should discussed if only to verify ER membership status, before the battle starts and host launches game.

5. Reporting Matches

 2) Documentation:
All players are encouraged to take their own screen shot of the results of each battle.

3) Unregistered Players:

Players affiliation and ER status should be verified by both teams prior to the event.

 

Your other question was:

2. Require the player in each match to edit their in-game name to match the one here at ER. This makes match reporting easier at the time of submitting and would help eliminate submitting scores for the wrong player. This also makes it easier for a Mod to verify screenshots in disputes. Plus, it allows all players that keep back-up screenshots and personally verify the match reports themselves. Really it's not hard to press ~, then type name ______. This again, makes the job of the Mod easier.

 

This is covered in the rules:

 c) Membership:
Clan and player membership should be verified prior to each battle event. ER names must match in-game names.

I don't understand how we can further require this, if the match particapants themselves do not inforce the rule, afterall moderators are not necessarily involved in each match.

 

I'll send you a PM with the other issues 3/4, and we can discuss.

-bp


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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 4:13 PM
Post #21595 - In reply to #21589

Originally written by {MotR}utengineer on 2007-11-18 1:21 PM
2. Require the player in each match to edit their in-game name to match the one here at ER. This makes match reporting easier at the time of submitting and would help eliminate submitting scores for the wrong player. This also makes it easier for a Mod to verify screenshots in disputes. Plus, it allows all players that keep back-up screenshots and personally verify the match reports themselves. Really it's not hard to press ~, then type name ______. This again, makes the job of the Mod easier.


This is already a rule; people simply don't abide by it.

In theory, moderator status shouldn't be granted based on the activity of a clan that that person belongs to. I have no problems contacting bp, Wayne, or one of the other mods if I have a question or problem. If moderators were chosen by clan, I don't see why RedCell shouldn't have a moderator either.
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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 4:29 PM
Post #21596 - In reply to #21589

Thanks bp, I will reply to your PMs.
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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 6:21 PM
Post #21598 - In reply to #21595

Originally written by NuclearBoBo on 2007-11-18 4:13 PM

If moderators were chosen by clan, I don't see why RedCell shouldn't have a moderator either.


Noval resigned ...


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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 8:15 PM
Post #21602 - In reply to #21589

I believe Noval just didnt have enough time to mod Vash.
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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 8:25 PM
Post #21603 - In reply to #21589

I agree, I think its a good idea for every major clan to have a mod in the ER tournaments. That way no one can say FS runs DW or anything like that.
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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 8:30 PM
Post #21604 - In reply to #21603

Originally written by Monk on 2007-11-18 8:25 PM

I agree, I think its a good idea for every major clan to have a mod in the ER tournaments. That way no one can say FS runs DW or anything like that.



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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 9:42 PM
Post #21605 - In reply to #21604

Originally written by Smurf on 2007-11-18 8:30 PM

Originally written by Monk on 2007-11-18 8:25 PM

I agree, I think its a good idea for every major clan to have a mod in the ER tournaments. That way no one can say FS runs DW or anything like that.




Lol...exactly my thoughts, and im not even gonna lie and i dont want any1 to comment on the following thing, just throwing it out there.

Ive heard over and over "FS runs ER's RC Section", Me being a former 7DS from back in the day, recall many times people thought ER was corrupt.i think it was like 2 or 3 tornies in a row 7DS/LD led till the last few final updates and ended up winning when they were behind 5 points at least.

Whther i believe this or not is niether here nor there...So all I'll say is mods in most of the major clans would stop alot of those stupid rumours...


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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 10:29 PM
Post #21606 - In reply to #21598

Originally written by ]-TX-[ VAsH on 2007-11-18 6:21 PM

Originally written by NuclearBoBo on 2007-11-18 4:13 PM

If moderators were chosen by clan, I don't see why RedCell shouldn't have a moderator either.


Noval resigned ...



I understood that Noval didn't officially resign. Granted, Noval doesn't have a lot of time. Bp recognized that and posted a resignation for him, thereby giving him the boot (i.e. a crude way to say it).

What's your point? BloodyMary resigned too...

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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 11:10 PM
Post #21608 - In reply to #21606

Originally written by NuclearBoBo on 2007-11-18 9:29 PM

Originally written by ]-TX-[ VAsH on 2007-11-18 6:21 PM
Originally written by NuclearBoBo on 2007-11-18 4:13 PM If moderators were chosen by clan, I don't see why RedCell shouldn't have a moderator either.
Noval resigned ...
I understood that Noval didn't officially resign. Granted, Noval doesn't have a lot of time. Bp recognized that and posted a resignation for him, thereby giving him the boot (i.e. a crude way to say it). What's your point? BloodyMary resigned too...

First, that's simple not true. Noval told us he was resigning because he could not dedicate the time to be a mod, Bp only posted a Thank you to Noval.

I'm not going to get into it too much because of Bp's post in how to handly most of this. But you people have chalk it all up to some crap about FS corrupting the system... People need to earn being a mod, you dont get one because you have a lot of people playing in events. That goes for everybody. I am tried of missinformed people saying otherwise.

You can expect a Pm from me as well UT.


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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 11:26 PM
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Originally written by =FS= Havick on 2007-11-18 11:10 PM

Originally written by NuclearBoBo on 2007-11-18 9:29 PM

Originally written by ]-TX-[ VAsH on 2007-11-18 6:21 PM
Originally written by NuclearBoBo on 2007-11-18 4:13 PM If moderators were chosen by clan, I don't see why RedCell shouldn't have a moderator either.
Noval resigned ...
I understood that Noval didn't officially resign. Granted, Noval doesn't have a lot of time. Bp recognized that and posted a resignation for him, thereby giving him the boot (i.e. a crude way to say it). What's your point? BloodyMary resigned too...

First, that's simple not true. Noval told us he was resigning because he could not dedicate the time to be a mod, Bp only posted a Thank you to Noval.

I'm not going to get into it too much because of Bp's post in how to handly most of this. But you people have chalk it all up to some crap about FS corrupting the system... People need to earn being a mod, you dont get one because you have a lot of people playing in events. That goes for everybody. I am tried of missinformed people saying otherwise.

You can expect a Pm from me as well UT.



Im not gonna try and start a flaming board, but im very fairly certain, and I think the WHOLE RC community will stick by me with this one.(besides some FS who hate me) but I think MotR has more than a plenty of people who would be great mods. Who have earned it by playing with ER since the start and not have been in trouble or anything like that. That goes for RC as well. The newer clans i.e. 7ds probably should get a mod now seeing as they just joined the community again. I think RC and MotR should get a Mod seeing as they are dominate forces in the community and have plenty of members who are capable for the job.


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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 11:30 PM
Post #21610 - In reply to #21589

I agree with monk....
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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-18 11:31 PM
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A clan doesnt get a mod becuase thye play at ER... I don't see how you all got tat into your head. It's never been that way.
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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-19 12:06 AM
Post #21613 - In reply to #21589

Bobo, Noval resigned in the moderator section, his reasons were he didn't have enough time. Bloody Mary also resigned on her on.. If there are any other questions about which moderators resigned, I have never booted any moderator. Thanks everyone else for getting us off topic. Also I find it funny for people to make accussations of corruption considering I've been a moderator at ER 2 1/2 years longer than most of you have been in your clan.. Some of you (the ones making the accussations of all things) have been in 5-6 clans during that time. Just like people don't read the rules, they don't read the my posts.. Clans are not awarded moderator positions.. individuals are..

[Edited by =FS= bprendy on 2007-11-19 12:07 AM]

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Subject : RE: MotR Mods & Suggestions
Posted : 2007-11-19 12:07 AM
Post #21614 - In reply to #21589

Hey, everyone, I really appreciate your comments....and as bprendy points out, some of our topics, and arguments I HAVE PRESENTED, may need to be addressed with the powers that be, here at ER; but, regardless, there is no need to infuse my post with other topics/issues from other clans or their members.

My MAIN POINT, is that MotR ALREADY contributes to the ER community with our guns and general membership....we DO have some really good players and with our experience in ER RC events, we can help....HELP!

Never in my post did I elude to impropriety here at ER. As far as I can see..... my clan, MotR, is doing just fine. Last I checked we have a pretty HIGH caliber track record here(2 years +).

Essentially getting an MotR ER Mod back into action would only help ME --- help control my teams, but formalize current events and allow some of my most experienced members to help during the event.

If other clans can benefit from MotR Mods, then so be it.....I know of many Mods from OTHER clans that helped me during my battle days.


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