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		Game & Battle Discussion Jedi Knight: Academy UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR		Maelstrom		Last Activity 2007-12-22 8:18 PM 25 replies, 478 viewings

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Mike

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Subject : UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 3:27 PM
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Today while I was having 1v1 on dc server, a player named “^sA^Ara?ian-P-” kept talking in general chat. I asked him several times to stop that, but he ignored this requests and started to insult me and my clan. When I tried to kick him, dc members, which were currently on server didn’t let me do it. Later I was told that he was not the member of dc, and just a client.

Later this day on DP server I, Ravager!!BOSS, [E]Nordic and 3 DP members were having a 3v3, dc members connected. The same story repeated again, they again talked in general chat and ignored requests to stop this.

After this episode I looked through the chat log, which my kt recorded while I was on DP server, and below are some extracts from it:

^sA^AraЯian-P- connected
^sA^AraЯian-P- renamed to player h8ter
player h8ter renamed to dc'Slayer

After thinking this over I came to conclusion that there are 2 possible explanations of this story:

1) Player “^sA^AraЯian-P-” is a member of dc clan. Members of dc clan purposefully lied to moderator (me) about his identity and let him insult me and my clan.

2) Player “^sA^AraЯian-P-” is not a member of dc clan. Members of dc clan purposefully let him insult me and my clan, they didn’t let me kick him. After the episode on dc server they told him the ip and password of DP server. There he assumed the name dc'Slayer, while not being a dc member.

From my point of view behavior of dc members in both variants is unacceptable.
So, unless DC have anything to say in there defense, I suggest ban of DC clan from this event (SaberWeek 19).

EDIT: I have kt logs and some screenshots as a proof of all this. Due to the fact that this logs contain private information, I’ll not post them here, but I can show them to other moderators and director. Validity of this logs can be proved by ET, cause he can look through server logs.

[Edited by Mike on 2007-06-12 3:31 PM]

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 3:40 PM
Post #16257 - In reply to #16256

arabian is not a member, he just put on dc tag because friends of his are in dc, that;s why we didn;t kick him.

i apologise for everything that happened. banning us from the event won't be necesary

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 3:42 PM
Post #16258 - In reply to #16256

1.If you did not like our behavior then why did you not kicked us and pass the srv to a diff one than sw19 until you have finished the match.
2.From what i read you are the only ones complaining and crying like a baby since you obviously suck at this game and cannot comprehend what its all about.Therefore i suggest you su until you win a match.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 3:45 PM
Post #16259 - In reply to #16258

*slaps himself for the bad attitude*
but its true all of this could have been avoided no need of banning us lol.That shows you are afraid.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 3:47 PM
Post #16260 - In reply to #16256

also, no need to ban the entire clan, if only 1 guy is misbehaving..

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 3:50 PM
Post #16261 - In reply to #16260

Originally written by divide on 2007-06-12 10:47 PM

also, no need to ban the entire clan, if only 1 guy is misbehaving..

agree

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 4:24 PM
Post #16263 - In reply to #16261

1) I can’t ban/kick anyone from the server or change password, cause I am not the admin of DP server, and of course I am not the admin of your server. I am a moderator, and I can only ban/freeze people on ER site.

2) Whether I suck in this game or not it’s absolutely irrelevant, whether I win or loose matches against your clan members is also irrelevant. If you think that only kids “cry” when they are insulted, you are sadly mistaken. Besides other people are fed up with your behavior too.

3) I am the moderator, and my duty is to watch that the rules are followed. Even if I don’t care, I have to act nonetheless.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 4:41 PM
Post #16264 - In reply to #16256

agree. some people have misbehaved again i apologise

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 4:47 PM
Post #16265 - In reply to #16264

also, no need to ban the entire clan, if only 1 guy is misbehaving..

I don't care about some guy, who's not signed in event.
What I care about is:
- HOW did he got the IP of the server and with what purpose you guys told him that IP.
- people who are supposed to help me kick him, instead tell me that they are not going to do it (dc'xdr, »Db'Xx'd|Рi, dc_Fire).
- people who are signed up, break the rules, and ignore the requests to stop it (meaning »Db'Xx'd|jean, dc'xdr, dc'Slayer – not a member I hope).

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I am not taking any actions right now, I'll diskuss this with other moderators and ET first.

[Edited by Mike on 2007-06-12 6:02 PM]

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 5:12 PM
Post #16266 - In reply to #16256

Its good you broughtthis up in the public forum Mike becasue your right, It is unacceptable. An event is supposed to be for fun, on peoples time and for no reason should anybodys fun time be spoiled.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 7:06 PM
Post #16267 - In reply to #16258

Originally written by xdr on 2007-06-12 3:42 PM

1.If you did not like our behavior then why did you not kicked us and pass the srv to a diff one than sw19 until you have finished the match.
2.From what i read you are the only ones complaining and crying like a baby since you obviously suck at this game and cannot comprehend what its all about.Therefore i suggest you su until you win a match.

Go back to ESL please. I think this guys responce is enough to reinforce that suggested ban

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 7:08 PM
Post #16268 - In reply to #16266

Well… It seems that DC clan members have broken this rules:

Server Etiquette:
3. All spectators must use TeamChat when a game is live.
Player Etiquette:
1.All players should respect one another and threat each other with respect.

and didn’t let me deal me with unregistered player, who broke this rules even worse, therefore violating this rules:

Player Etiquette:
1.All players should respect one another and threat each other with respect.
2.Any player breaking this rule will receive a warning, if a player continues to be a problem then that player will be disqualified from the event and be subjected to Ecliptical Realms player abuse policies.

I’ve discussed this issue with ET and we’ve decided that DC clan we’ll be given last warning.

Anyway I must remind dc_Muse and dc_Divide that by being a club leader and team captain accordingly they should watch out for there members behavior. So, if anything like that happens again, DC clan will be disqualified from the event, according to the rule:

Player Etiquette:
3.To all club leaders: if a club has ongoing issues with players getting out of line and you do not take control of your players and put an end to it, then your club may be disqualified from the event.

I hope it will not come to this...

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 7:45 PM
Post #16272 - In reply to #16256

i cant even be bothered to discuss this atm.
ill wait for muse to get back until i do.
i apologised for it but u keep attacking the clan for no reason. also dbxxd pi doesnt even exist not in SW team nor the dbxxd esl team nor the other team ;s

but then again if you're afraid of any competition in this league, than disqualigy as you like, you all seem to be wanting it ;s because most of you can not beat us. i find that sad.

but then again there is no competition its just about the guy who has most kills wins, even if he has 1 win and 2882823 losses, i dont think that;s fair imo
but who am i, im just a team captain of a lame clan right?

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 7:47 PM
Post #16273 - In reply to #16256

sorry for that im just a bit annoyed by this all :s

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 7:52 PM
Post #16274 - In reply to #16272

Originally written by divide on 2007-06-12 7:45 PM

i cant even be bothered to discuss this atm.
ill wait for muse to get back until i do.
i apologised for it but u keep attacking the clan for no reason. also dbxxd pi doesnt even exist not in SW team nor the dbxxd esl team nor the other team ;s

but then again if you're afraid of any competition in this league, than disqualigy as you like, you all seem to be wanting it ;s because most of you can not beat us. i find that sad.

but then again there is no competition its just about the guy who has most kills wins, even if he has 1 win and 2882823 losses, i dont think that;s fair imo
but who am i, im just a team captain of a lame clan right?

First of all Im sorry I couldnt understand the majority of your reply due to alot of poor Grammar and spelling , Mainly in the 2nd paragraph though it was apparent throughout.

"but then again if you're afraid of any competition in this league, than disqualigy as you like, you all seem to be wanting it ;s because most of you can not beat us."

Thats the most childish rebuttal I've ever seen to a ban request , afraid? You would swear you're suggesting people are afraid to play Jedi Academy as if they would die "irl".

You keep going back to the same point of you telling the to "disqualigy" you (Im pritty sure you mean disqualify could you please verify my assumption?) But yet Mike has already said you will be given a final warning so I do believe the punishment has been given and the topic is over.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 7:58 PM
Post #16275 - In reply to #16256

This is going nowhere

Face Facts. It's obvious that most of the players don't know the rules. Without rules in a major event we are lost.

SaberWeek is becoming big again (even without USA servers we have a lot of players active) and everytime this event gets a boost there are always many players whining.... bt hax, bt rules not obeyed, bt maturity issues as well.

All I can really add is that we are all in it and with the rules as a guideline to clans, players and gameplay.
Now have fun or eat your pet!

Warning for DC is still active

gr ET

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 8:05 PM
Post #16276 - In reply to #16272

This name I took from the log, I don’t know whether such player exist or he just changed his name to this for some reason.
Also you may have noticed that most of the time only I play for my clan that means that I can’t really win this event. So pls don’t accuse me of being afraid or smth like that, I already ‘lost’ before even starting, and play mostly for fun.

I understand your feelings about this matter, but pls try to look at this from moderator’s point of view. No one wants to ban your clan because they don’t like it or we are ‘afraid of competition’, we just can’t let such things happen cause it spoils the game for everyone.
As I said before your clan is NOT banned, and therefore your apologies are ACCEPTED. I hope that such things we’ll not happen again and this issue will be over.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 8:30 PM
Post #16278 - In reply to #16274

Originally written by TheDarkOne on 2007-06-12 7:52 PM

Sorry I'm just overwhelmed by your stupidity in that post.
You're correcting my English (where most of the mistakes were typo's but it was my own fault to think you where bright enough to figure that out), while I'm Dutch. It is not my first language unlike you. You seem to be living in Ireland, therefor your English is naturally better than mine.

Even though you corrected my English, you're making mistakes yourself:

"First of all Im sorry I couldnt understand the majority of your reply due to alot of poor Grammar and spelling "

It's spelled a lot, as far as I know. Alot isn't a word.

"Thats the most childish rebuttal I've ever seen to a ban request , afraid? You would swear you're suggesting people are afraid to play Jedi Academy as if they would die "irl"."

As far as I know I've never said anything or done anything that could make you think I meant that. I clearly said afraid of competition. Therefor I mean; you are afraid to play us in game and get beaten. There's no referal to any matter that says people are afraid to play JKA as if they would die "irl".
If you do think that, than it's you who takes this game to serious.

"(Im pritty sure you mean disqualify could you please verify my assumption?) "

But even that all and even not my poor spelling/grammar beats this. You corrected me with a typo, where the G clearly is next to the F, and you're saying "pritty". This isn't a word that excists. It's properly spelled PrEtty. Which clearly can't be a typo since the I is no way near the E.
How ironic, huh?

@Mike, i agree with you there. You've got my respect in playing for your clan.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 8:49 PM
Post #16279 - In reply to #16256

First of all "Stupidity?" I do believe that you have flamed me there. I have not flamed you once throughout this discussion and I am the stupid one? You did not rebuttal my entire argument in that last post you just corrected grammar/spelling error's and flamed. Congratulations!

Calling someone "afraid" to play you is childish , its something a five year old child would reply with."Sorry I'm just overwhelmed by your stupidity in that post.

"You're correcting my English (where most of the mistakes were typo's but it was my own fault to think you where bright enough to figure that out), while I'm Dutch. It is not my first language unlike you"

My Dutch friend I do believe your information about Ireland is extremly limited. Ireland has Gaelthact area's about 10% of the Country's population first language is Gaelic. Did you ever consider I may be from one of those area's?

therefor is spelt Therefore , yourself: There should be a fullstop at that line."It's spelled a lot, as far as I know. Alot isn't a word." That actually is in debate amongest dictonarys My country offically accepts "alot" as a word and so does many others.PrEtty , I dont think the E is ment to be capital , But Congratulations you have come across a genuine spelling mistake , I am aware its spelt Pretty. It was human error.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-12 9:14 PM
Post #16283 - In reply to #16256

for spelling problems there is also google and a book called a dictionary.

I'm dutch as well, speak dialect, German and a bit french...

Every educated person can try and read what another tries to say in words.... still words aren't as solid as spoken language. Don't let this turn in a "I know better english contest" because there isn't something as a bigger language nor a better meaning and interpretation of words solidly.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-13 5:12 AM
Post #16298 - In reply to #16256

"It was human error."

well done.

Let's try who speaks the best Danish shall we? I'll whoop your ass back to Bangkok or wherever the hell you come from, all over the Great Wall. with that language.

Let's just stop this anal buggery here, and let's take it in game.
CSS or JKA doesn't matter for me.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-13 5:33 AM
Post #16299 - In reply to #16256

ROFL never seen such kids arguing in my entire life LOL.You twats.. get a life,chill its just a game.Ban ME for all i care.You have no idea and as i said ALL OF THIS COULD BE AVOIDED IF A CRYING BABY LIKE MIKE JUST CHILLED..NO ONE FLAMED YOU MIKE AND BTW YOU CAN ALWAYS HIDE WHAT WE ARE SAYING DOH.
Furthermore to my statement you could have asked DP members to kick us.To sum up i thank you for not banning us yet in the name of divide since he cares about this which i cba to do.I am playing for fun but you guys seem not to.End of disscusion and also suggest the topic to be closed.

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-13 8:25 AM
Post #16305 - In reply to #16256

Why the hell would I wanna speak Danish? How would that contribute to my life in anyway? Onlyabout 5.5 Million people worldwide speak Danish so it would seem awfully pointless. I love how you completly ignored my last post and attempted to go in a completly new direction with this

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-13 11:22 AM
Post #16310 - In reply to #16256

yeah because i'm too tired to argue, some people work and dont have the time to put silly little post on this silly little forum where only 3 people post on :>

if you wanna shut me up, beat me in game first.
I also do not flame, because I'm simply not on fire -,-

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Subject : RE: UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR
Posted : 2007-06-13 11:32 AM
Post #16311 - In reply to #16256

"
Sorry I'm just overwhelmed by your stupidity in that post."

That's a flame

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