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Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gamers read! 		 Maelstrom Last Activity 2007-12-25 6:21 AM
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-16 10:59 AM
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Great explanation, Krayt, but why make a PS3 in the first place? It all adds up, they're going to keep making them. PS2 was fine on its own. As you said, it's just better graphics. Let them make more. It'll be their loss.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-16 3:32 PM
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Originally written by Darth_CT_1175-SC on 2007-03-16 3:59 AM

Great explanation, Krayt, but why make a PS3 in the first place? It all adds up, they're going to keep making them. PS2 was fine on its own. As you said, it's just better graphics. Let them make more. It'll be their loss.


How do you figure it will be their loss when they are making crap loads of money off of it? The people it hurts is us in the case of games like the force unleashed where they make it for consoles over the dedicated PC gamers.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-17 9:00 AM
Post #13513 - In reply to #12670
How do figure that Krayt?

Losing an entire market because your ignoring it will have an effect on your profitability...so says economics. Ignoring an entire market is one sure way of losing the consumer base(us) and our support in the future.

Sure, they have a monopoly when it comes to star Wars games, but if we dont buy them... There's no point in their existance.

They started with the computer market and if things continue going as they do, it will end with the computer market.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-18 7:44 PM
Post #13528 - In reply to #12670
We've drifted too far off topic. This is about Forces Unleashed, not how console gaming is going to make its money. How about we discuss the possibilities instead of console possibilities?
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-19 10:14 AM
Post #13545 - In reply to #12670
Dont be daft. The topics are interconnected.

If a game is not meant for the PC...Then its meant for consoles and the reasoning behind it?

I rest my case. Continue
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-19 6:44 PM
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Ooh! Ooh! I know the reason! *whispers under breath* Because console makers are jealous of the PC so they pay LucasArts lots of money to make a console-only game* Just a whisper, though...

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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-03-30 11:31 PM
Post #13884 - In reply to #12670
Hang on now, I have something that could be worthwhile. I know people in my home where you can buy a PS2 for $20. I'm sure you have some money in you're on a computer daily, visiting ER? So why not just do that and get Forces Unleashed when it comes out for that? I was fortunate enough to get a PS2 and a Nintendo DS early in the game, so I'm set, but still...
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-02 12:15 PM
Post #13933 - In reply to #12670
I've read every post in this topic and have kept fairly quiet. From my understanding, the desire to have this game on PC is a pretty sound idea. From a gamer and modder standpoint it could offer some exciting and enjoyable gameplay. However, and you knew this was coming, LucasArts makes enough money off the console releases that they are slowly growing less than intrested with PC gamers. To me this is pretty stupid because many of the designers that currently work at LA were probably gamers that played more PC based games than the old 16bit Star Wars games on Nintendo.

As far as consoles vs PCs go, give me a pc. I can upgrade however I like, I can make new levels and mission maps for most of the games I play. Consoles are for lazy people that just want to set there with a six pack and push a couple of buttons. Lets compare them to cares, PCs are hot rods where consoles is the family staton wagon. The PC needs updated every once in a while where the console just needs to be turned on. LucasArts and a majority of other game designers will eventually stop making PC titles. So for us Star Wars fans, better enjoy it while you can.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-02 6:40 PM
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Sadly, I find you're words impossible. LucasArts won't stop making games for another 14 years, because that's how much longer they have a contract with Petroglyph and Microsoft. They need a game at least every 5-6 years, otherwise they get a little of the original profit that comes out of the entire franchise link. We got a while, and by then, they'll realize we are the ones who matter, not the, as you said, six-pack chuggers pushing buttons.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 9:42 AM
Post #13956 - In reply to #12670
Yea, keep that dream going. LA doesnt need to do anymore PC titles if they dont want. Last time I checked, didnt Microsoft own the Xbox? That covers that.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 4:55 PM
Post #13973 - In reply to #13956
Originally written by Darktrooper on 2007-04-03 9:42 AM didnt Microsoft own the Xbox? That covers that.


I hope that doesnt mean LA will try to make a console.

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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 6:39 PM
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No, because Microsoft doesn't just OWN the console. They MADE the console. And ''keep that dream going"? "LA doesn't need us"? Sure they do! As stated, they have a contract not easily broken. Besides, if you're going to do nothing but disprove this entire thread, then leave. We don't need discouragement.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-03 6:42 PM
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And I HIGHLY doubt LucasArts would attempt at a console. You see, the whole console makers are bigger companies, not game makers. PS2 is Sony, also a TV company. Nintendo, is, well, ALL games, and made it's money off of the games. Xbox is from Microsoft, a HUGE company. Any other game consoles you need description? *PS* DS in Nintendo, GameBoy is Nintendo, PSP is Sony, and any other handhelds are most likely from a bigger company.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-04 12:53 AM
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Please refrain from hostility because you dont like my posts. First, I am being devils advocate. Secondly, you're taking the console statement out of context. You stated that LA has a contract with Microsoft, correct this if I am in error. Now I stated that Microsoft owned Xbox, Xbox 360. Soooo, if LA has a contract with Microsoft to produce games, would it not stand to reason that these games would be developed for the greater cash cow in their eyes? I agree that LA should continue to produce games for the PC market, but I also know that they are concerned more with the bottom line in revenue than making a few thousand fans happy.
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Posted : 2007-04-04 6:48 PM
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This again is getting out of hand. I'll simplify my words: Petroglyph and Microsoft must work with LucasArts to make games. The games they make for Xbox will ALSO be out on PC, as part of the contract. However, Force Unleashed wasn't to be released on Xbox, as stated on www.lucasarts.com. I'll even copy/paste the platform releases.

Platforms:

PlayStation 2, PSP
(Krome Studios)

Nintendo DS
(n-Space, Inc.)

This is why Force Unleashed isn't coming out on PC so quickly. However, there is a chance as long as they make it for Xbox as well. Basically, we're getting the same deal for another 14 years. I think we're set.
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Posted : 2007-04-05 3:27 AM
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I agree with that. I would also like to point out that many members of the modding community are trying to push for more games like this to be released as a pc game. Of course being modders, the chance for adaptability is there as well. Take 2142 for instance. It's the hot ticket right now, so hot that others are currently overhauling it to make a Star Wars version.
For those that dont know here is the link for this new mod: http://mods.moddb.com/6512/first-strike/ So if it can be done with this game, I'm sure others can be done as well. Sorry if I seem to be against the ideas of this topic, I'm not. I just wanted everyone to see the other side of the issue and what could happen.
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Subject : RE: Star Wars:Force Unleashed needs you-all PC gam
Posted : 2007-04-11 12:37 AM
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This arguement really shouldn't be about whether or not LA needs us. Hell no they dont. they could sell this game just to the PS2 and make a butt load of money off of it. The reason that they sell it to multiple consoles isn't because they *need* any of them. It is because the motive of LA is first and foremost to make money. So the question then becomes *why* don't they make if for PC? From a developers stand point, it would be relatively easy to tweak the PS3 game you are making to work on a PC just as easy as it would be to make it an Xbox 360 (which you all know they are actually doing). So why aren't they making it for PC? some of you have argued its cuz they don't need the business of PC users. Frankly that idea is just stupid. If you might allow me to use a rather poorly constructed analogy: If you are selling a product like lets say an Ipod and the only color it comes in is White, but you still make a lot of money that is fine. But if there is a large group of people out there who will make you millions but only if the product is black, then why the hell wouldn't you do it? is one of the simplest changes you can make and it will increase you're profit by 50%+. Yet this is exactly what LA is doing by not making a relatively simple change to greatly increase profits and we are left with the question of why they are taking such a seemingly stupid action.
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Posted : 2007-04-11 9:56 AM
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Um... Interesting analogy. Truly, I think we're getting our hopes too high. I mean, I'm not complaining, to be honest. I have consoles to use on my spare time when our PC or internet doesn't work. And some consoles, like the PS2, are really cheap now. As stated, I could buy a PS2 for about $20 where I live.
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Posted : 2007-04-11 11:29 AM
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Ok this has gotten out of hand I for one have given up hope on LA with there lack of product support especially with SWBF2 have any of you accualy called LA and spoke with a tech well I have they are just morons even there supervisiors dont know sh** about how to fix a problem, with that said just give up cause they arent gonna make it for PC so why waste your time just move on and play a diffrent game that accually has product support and accualy gives a damm what we think I have moved on to the BF series BF2 and 2142(even tho I swore id never play another EA game but look at me now) granted it has its messs ups and flaws but at least they try to fix issues that pop up with patches and beta testing. and for all you SWBF2 players playing in ER I give you props for even keeping a dead game alive when it should be shot in the head and burried. But with out product support why even bother, to each is own. My bet is when DX 10 is out for awhile they will relase a port or by that time SWBF3 will be out.....lol
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Posted : 2007-04-11 6:58 PM
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You insulted people I know, which is really rude. The tech supervisors and managers at LucasArts are NOT morons. They're intelligent people, more intelligent than you, for that matter. Don't ASSUME things. Assumptions never did anyone good. Take a look at Anakin Skywalker. But this hasn't got out of hand, LucasArts isn't ignoring us, you're just spreading lies and bringing our faith down.
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Posted : 2007-04-11 7:44 PM
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ok have you spent 2 1/2 hrs on the phone with LA's techs no so STFU there best advise was to buy the cd version of the game when I had allready bought the DVD version when it came out and after the patch the dam thing didnt wanna work so the suggested that I either buy another copy but make sure it was the cd version and not the dvd version what a waste of 50 bucks and another thing move on the game will not come out for the PC so ask mommy or daddy to buy it for and stop you complaining all I gotta say is that its one less LA game on the PC. George can stick it for all I care.
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Posted : 2007-04-13 9:50 AM
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You talk all smack about LA and the game, yet it hasn't even come out. You speak like they have it out and a patch for it, which is wrong. You're just lying. The game doesn't come out until, eh, 2008.
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Posted : 2007-04-13 10:10 AM
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lets see swbf2 had 1 patch that was soposed to fix issues it only created more problems. and Ill talk all the smack I want about LA im just going by there track record. Not to say EA has a spotless on but at least they try to fix the problems that pop up.
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Posted : 2007-06-01 11:33 PM
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Interesting,if you type in Force Unleashed on Google you'll come accross a link to Amazon.com in the UK with the ability to pre-order the game for the PC.Very interesting indeed.


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Posted : 2007-06-02 6:16 AM
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I would just like to point out that in the Force Unleashed section of the LA site it says Next Gen Consoles while the new LA game Fracture specifically says PS3 and Xbox 360. Now if the game was only being made for PS3 and Xbox 360 of the possible Next Gen systems then it would list those specifically. A probable reason that LA would say "Next Gen Consoles" could either be that they are making it for PC, or that they are at least considering it. Some might say it is because they are thinking of making it for Wii and this could be a possibility but it would be smarter of LA to make a different game that is specifically for the Wii with game play designed for the Wii controller setup.
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