Ecliptical Realms Online Gaming Statistical Community
   
 
 
   
 
 
Home
Forums
Downloads
Join Member Plus!
Staff Listing
Terms of Use
Link to ER
About ER
Help
Current Events
Overall Club Rankings
Overall Player Rankings
Overall Member Plus
Event Calendar
Battle Rooms
TeamSpeak Server
  Battlefield 2142
  Battlefront
  Battlefront 2
  Command & Conquer 3
  Counter Strike: Source
  Empire at War
  F.E.A.R.
  Halo
  Jedi Knight: Academy
  Miscellaneous Games
  Rep. Commando CTF
  Republic Commando
  Unreal Tournament
  World in Conflict

Club List
Club Management
Join/Leave a Club

Player List
Logon / Sign Up
Lost Password











Google

  Message Format        Current Location        Moderators        Thread Information  
 
Game & Battle Discussion
Star Wars: Empire at War
Forfeit rule? 		 Maelstrom Last Activity 2007-12-30 10:00 AM
8 replies, 459 viewings
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
 
back reply
Navigate threads:
< Previous Thread :: Next Thread >
Printer friendly version

^ Top
RagE_Visualizer

Elite Veteran
100025
Posts: 1045

Joined: 2005-06-16
Location: USA

User Profile 
Subject : Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-01 2:48 AM
Post #11972
Just out of curiosity,given the fact that most games end with scores of like 12-15 points isn't it kind of unbalanced for a forfeit match for winner to get 50 and loser get 15.It almost encourages people to forfeit against good players cause then at least they know they'll get 15 points without even having to play.

Or am I reading the forfeit rule incorrect?
^ Top
RagE_Visualizer

Elite Veteran
100025
Posts: 1045

Joined: 2005-06-16
Location: USA

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-01 2:48 AM
Post #11973 - In reply to #11972
^^^post is referring to galaxyweek btw.
^ Top
DS_Commander

Member
25
Posts: 28



Joined: 2006-07-28
Location: Maryland(USA)

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-01 5:23 PM
Post #11990 - In reply to #11973
I would rather get 5 and the other teams get 15 then me get 15 if the other team gets 50. That pretty much messes up your clans chance of winning ifyou give away 50 free points and a win....
^ Top
-(DW)-Krayt88

Extreme Veteran
5002525
Posts: 559



Joined: 2005-08-05
Location: Oregon, U.S.A.

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-01 7:08 PM
Post #11995 - In reply to #11972
Originally written by RagE_Visualizer on 2007-02-01 4:12 AM

Just out of curiosity,given the fact that most games end with scores of like 12-15 points isn't it kind of unbalanced for a forfeit match for winner to get 50 and loser get 15.It almost encourages people to forfeit against good players cause then at least they know they'll get 15 points without even having to play.

Or am I reading the forfeit rule incorrect?


Originally written by DS_Darth-Nazgul on 2007-02-01 10:23 AM

I would rather get 5 and the other teams get 15 then me get 15 if the other team gets 50. That pretty much messes up your clans chance of winning ifyou give away 50 free points and a win....


Well the point is to make it hurt the clan that forfeits. This rule only applys to E@W players and not FoC players since they cant forfeit a 1 game match. But in the standings a game that is lost 15-50 is going to hurt you a lot more then playing a game and losing 0-15. Its this way on purpose so that people who want to stay in the runnings will take a loss that is 0-15 instead of forfeiting and taking a 15-50 loss, either way they would be getting a loss, but if they actually play they have some control over how much they lose buy. If they just give up they lose a lot more points and it hurts them a lot more. The hope it that this will serve as a deterrent and keep people from forfeiting at all.
^ Top
Asuka

Veteran
100
Posts: 123



Joined: 2006-06-01
Location: South Africa

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-02 4:40 AM
Post #12014 - In reply to #11972
All fine and dandy..but since we're on the subject...

You implimented a maximum point rule of no more than 45 points...yet a forfeit is 50 points. How does that work?
^ Top
qam4

Member

Posts: 7



Joined: 2006-12-25
Location: Old Bridge, NJ, 08857, USA

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-02 2:03 PM
Post #12022 - In reply to #11972
I kind of agree with Visu.
A lot of people use the forfeit rule to boost their score.
They'd rather get those 15 points, no matter if the other guy gets 50.
I'd say give 45/0, then people won't forfeit.
^ Top
-(DW)-Krayt88

Extreme Veteran
5002525
Posts: 559



Joined: 2005-08-05
Location: Oregon, U.S.A.

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-02-02 2:53 PM
Post #12025 - In reply to #12022
Originally written by Asuka on 2007-02-02 2:20 AM

All fine and dandy..but since we're on the subject...

You implimented a maximum point rule of no more than 45 points...yet a forfeit is 50 points. How does that work?



actually the point cap of 45 only applys to Invasionweeks, there is no cap for Galaxyweek events.

Originally written by qam4 on 2007-02-02 7:03 AM

I kind of agree with Visu.
A lot of people use the forfeit rule to boost their score.
They'd rather get those 15 points, no matter if the other guy gets 50.
I'd say give 45/0, then people won't forfeit.


People may think they can forfeit to boost their scores but in reality it just doesnt work like that. Ok sure, they get 15 points and that helps them a little in the area of average points per game, but the opposing player gets 50 points, which hurts their average enemey points per game. overall 50 points for the opposing team is going to hurt them way more they getting 15 points of their own can make up for. Sure 15 points may help them in that single category, but submitting a forfeit will not bring somebody up in the rankings. the rule mainly gives points for the cases in which a player must forfeit, not because they dont want to play somebody again, but because they have real life issues that take priority over gaming and they must leave.

However I have been considering changing the punishment to a forfeit and now with people calling for it to be changed i have started looking into a new forfeit point value. It will be ready by the next Galaxyweek.
^ Top
[TWNZ]J.R.K.S

Member

Posts: 19

Joined: 2006-10-03
Location: Turku,Finland

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-05-04 7:50 AM
Post #14848 - In reply to #11972
just out of curiosity,does this same 15-50 apply to Iw too?
^ Top
-(DW)-Krayt88

Extreme Veteran
5002525
Posts: 559



Joined: 2005-08-05
Location: Oregon, U.S.A.

User Profile 
Subject : RE: Forfeit rule?
Posted : 2007-05-07 1:53 AM
Post #14933 - In reply to #14848
no the forfeit point amounts are different for Iw as specified by the rules.
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
back reply
Navigate threads:
< Previous Thread :: Next Thread >
Legend    Action      Jump to a forum        Notification  
Administrator
Forum Moderator
Registered User
Unregistered User
 E-Mail this thread to a friend
 
 Toggle e-mail notification



Browsing as a Guest.
Logon to access more features
Your IP: 3.141.30.162
 
Top Overall Clubs
 
4163.60 - DS
2153.57 - -(DW)-
1862.41 - TAW
1796.05 - {MotR}
1688.60 - RagE
 
 
Top Club Awards
  [66] DS
[40] -(DW)-
[33] RagE
[29] {MotR}
[28] TAW
 
 
Advertisement
   
 
Top Overall Players
 
1759.78 - RagE_Visualizer
1669.72 - -(DW)-Krayt88
1648.70 - Anakin
1525.27 - BobaFett
1466.57 - -(DW)-Wasp
 
 
Top Player Awards
  [17] RagE_Visualizer
[17] -(DW)-Wasp
[17] Anakin
[15] Adema
[14] (-DR-)Jimmy
 
 
Top Member Plus Points
  [45] Mandalore
[33] -(DW)-Wasp
[27] =FS= Cleric Sam
[25] Razor
[18] Locutus
[14] TheDarkOne
[12] TAW_Krenny
[9] RagE_Visualizer
[8] Dan
[7] DS_Drummer
[7] SirSie